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smy82482

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Goat vaccination and medicines

Dear lramkumar,
Vaccines are different from medicines.Vaccination is done to prevent any contagious disease and it is done to healthy goats not diseased goats,vaccination is prevention.Whereas medicines are used when goats are sick not prior to their sickness.
1.Goats have four major vaccination programme in a year which includes-F.M.D,PPR,ETV and HS.Vaccination of goat kids is on weight and not on months.Vaccinating goats as per month or season is absolutely wrong,an illiterate trainer or doctor(who don't have practical experience of goat rearing) can only advise to vaccinate as per month or season, as per bookish knowledge.In goat farming theoretical(bookish knowledge) and practical knowledge are totally different.
2.Using unnecessary medicines whether it may be natural or unnatural will have an adverse effect on goats.So use medicines only as per symptoms of goats.There is not a single medicine for all symptoms(diseases) in goats.There are different medicines for different diseases which are used only after knowing the symptoms.
3.Vaccination cost is very low say 2rs per goat,whereas medicine cost varies from medicine to medicine.Medicine is given for three consecutive days(as human consumes after falling sick),whereas vaccine is given once in a year.
4.Deworm medicine includes albendazole,tricalbendazole,fenbendazole,lavimasol etc.Use different dewormer every after two months.Avoid deworming pregnant goats or may lead to abortion,fenbendazole is safe in pregnancy but not 100%.
5.For chart of vaccination and medicines used for various disorders visit my websites page-Goat Farm Project Report - My website
regards,
Dr.Shaikh
Phd in Goat Farming.
www.goatfarm.co.in
Osmanabadi Goat
Dear All,

I am from Tamilnadu, India. I am planning to start a Goat farm and I come across some goat trainings..

Vaccination details for diseases:

Foot and Mouth (Komari) - September/ March
Peste des petits ruminants - PPR (Poli vekkai) - April
Enterotoxaemia- E.T (Tulumari) - June
Tetanus (runajanni) - January/ July

I have some queries on the Vaccination and medicines:

Query1: What are all the other diseases the goat can get? What is the vaccination or Medicine to be given for those disease?

Query2: Is there any natural medicines to be given to goat? if so, what is the medicine and for which diseases?

Query3: Please let me know the vaccination or medicine cost for a goat per year?

Query4: What is the De-worm medicine to be given to goat and kids?

Query5: If you have any chart for vaccination or medicine for diseases in goats, please help me out.

Regards,

Ram
 

dineshgk

New Member
I have started goat farming with 20 female and one male from last one year with osmanabadi goats from dr.shaikh,which i have to share my experience.
Initially i got some problem with goats as goats were not eating fodder due to stress of traveling or new environment so i goat afraid,but dr.shaikh has told me to keep calm and follow his suggestions form time to time and which i did,and soon i goat better results.In last one year 18 goats have delivered kids twice and still two to deliver in next 1-2 months.All the kids were healthy and have achieved desirable weight gain,for this the all success goes to dr.shaikh.I have followed all its suggestion from time to time and he has answered me very politely and explains me what to give regular to these kids and goats.I have vaccinated all goats and kids as per his suggestion from time to time.There is a lot of difference between his suggestions and my local doctors,really local doctors doesnt knows too much of goats.I have seen my neighbors goats have been died due to wrong treatment by our local doctors and they suffered heavy loses.Also lots of farmers failed in goat farming due to buying of cheap goats from local markets or buying of goats from undisciplined goat farms, who doesn't vaccinates the goats at all and has very bad quality at low costs.Initially i was being worried by seeing heavy losses of these farmers,that i should go for goat farming or not.
But Thanks to dr.shaikh sir for all your support and kind help due to which i haven't got any severe losses while breeding goats.Thank you very much.
I must say that as per my experience,vaccination in goats and kids along with healthy fodder and right medicines(as per goat specialist doctor), plays an important role for successful goat farming.I personally feels that goat farming is very simple as compare to poultry and dairy farming,when it is done systematically and scientifically.Just do the hard working and the results will be in your hand.Also you can start with local goats but the right and regular guidance regarding medicines,vaccination,shelter and fodder is must.
regards,
Dinesh
 

gowda9

New Member
Greetings to all.
I m reading this forum last 2 months and found very informative knowledge regarding goat farming.I have attended many goat farm trainings but I didn't got all my queries satisfied answers.But after reading this I got enough practical knowledge which was satisfactory. I m very thankful to owner of this site and writer Dr.shaikh really an expert in goat farming.Also I read this writers other forum on other website which was again informative.I can't find an expert like him in India providing up to date practical knowledge of goat farming,yes practical knowledge is very important in successful goat farming as compare to bookish thereotical knowledge which leads to failure.In my area I have seen lots people invested lots of money on goat farming and have got sievere losses as they have dependent on local veterinary doctors who doesn't have enough practical knowledge on goat farming.By seeing that losses I have changed my mind to no to do goat farming,but now after reading this and taking advice from Dr.shaikh at latur Maharashtra I m confident that I will not faces any loses.Thank you doctor for sharing your unbelievable experience which I have shared with my local goat farmers and found very useful to them in critical condition.Thanks once again have no words to express your goat farming knowledge.
Yogesh Gowda
Karnataka
 

smy82482

Well-Known Member
Dear manishsingh1,
In rainy season goats should be vaccinated against E.T.V,so ETV vaccine should be done before rainy season.During rainy season goats eat the fodder which is raise by rain water.In environment there are lot of toxic elements,which settles on fodder along with rain water.These toxic elements(which are not visible to naked eyes) are then eaten by goats along with fodder,which further lets to toxicity in goats,which causes severe loose motions(diarrhea),unrecoverable fever,loss of appetite,blood in urine or pallets.A sudden death of goats and kids may occur in severe toxicity conditions within 12-24hrs..After giving ETV,it is again vaccinated within 21 days(booster dose).
Regards,
DR.Shaikh
Phd.Goat Farming
Goat Specialist Doc.
 

gdla01

New Member
Dear DR.shaikh,

Keep up your good work. Wooden floor vs Plastic floor - which one is better for goat farmers in-terms of durability and easy maintenance ..
 

smy82482

Well-Known Member
Dear gdla01,
Both are good in terms of durability,but in maintenance wooden floor is far better than plastic.Wooden floor is far cheaper as compare to plastic floor,so there is no need of unnecessary expenditure on plastic floor.Remember more expenditure on shed will never provide you more profit,shed should be simple and with low expenditures.Invest more on goats,which provides you good returns.If wooden and plastic both will work,then why to invest more on plastic sheets?Saved money by using wooden floor can be used to purchase more number of goats or higher quality of goats.
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.goatfarm.co.in
Dear DR.shaikh,

Keep up your good work. Wooden floor vs Plastic floor - which one is better for goat farmers in-terms of durability and easy maintenance ..
 

gdla01

New Member
Thanks Dr.Shaikh.

Concentrate feed
S.NoProductUnit PriceNo. KgsTotal Cost
1Maize/Bajra1540675
2Oil Cakes4020800
3Wheat Bran2232704
4Mineral Mix602120
5Common Salt15115
100 Kgs2314

Per Kg cost - Rs 23 to 24 aprox
Per Day cost
Concentrate feed per head - 250gm which costs = Rs 6
Green/Dry cost for 2 Kg to 3Kg = Rs 5
Labour cost = Rs 2
Electricity & Maintenance = Rs 2

Total cost per goat approx - 15 Rs

Is Concentrate feed fills nearly 40% of daily cost ? is my calculation correct ?
 

smy82482

Well-Known Member
Yes,Concentrated feed cost fills nearly 30%--40% of your total expenditure on goats in stall feed system.
Regards,
DR.Shaikh
 

smy82482

Well-Known Member
Dear rajendra government doesn't provides any loan,it's the bank who provides you loan for goat farming,so consult the nearest or known bank about it.Government provides you goats under various schemes,to know more about it read my previous posts or visit my website www.goatfarm.co.in
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
Phd.Goat Farming
 

Goat farming information 2017.

Hello Dr. Shaikh,


Warm regards! This is Rathinam, I am interested to get into farming both for business and as a lifestyle. I have been gathering information about Goat farming for sometime now and your inputs in this blog has been very very very useful. I read most of your answers in this blog and I have no words to thank you for such dedication. My sincere appreciation and my best wishes to you and your family. Please continue with your good work.

I plan to start a Goat farm with a small number of goats initially but eventually want to grow into a big farm (around 2000 to 3000 sellable goats per year). I have some questions and I hope you will have sometime to clarify these. Please excuse me if some of these questions are repetitive. The plan is to start the farm in northern Tamil Nadu (TN) where temperatures are hot and humid.

Economics:


  1. Will goats be sold at live weight or useful meat price? I recently went to a place at Chennai where they buy goats in bulk and they were not buying the goats with live weight. Instead they just bought the goat at meat price, that too they weighed by looking and touching the goat and not by actually weighing it. Is it possible to sell goats with live weight?
  2. Assuming we sell goats in live weight, how many goats can I comfortably sell at a given time? I plan to start slow, but I would like to expand the farm to around 500 females per year (which means around 2000 kids to sell per year). Is this number too big to sell? In Tamil Nadu?
  3. Is it easy or difficult to sell older goats (goats that are heavy)? For example: If I plan to grow 500 females, then I will have to sell those 500 after two or three years. At that time, those goats won’t be younger anymore. Can you comment on this?
  4. How many acres of land should be available for fodder cultivation for 500 females including its kids? Is there anything that we should buy to feed the goats apart from what we grow in our land?
  5. How many sq.feet should the shed be constructed to grow 500 goats (including its kids)
  6. How many labors are required to take care of these many goats?

Breed:


  1. What is the typical age at which an Osmanabadi goat should be sold?
  2. Is Osmanabadi a good breed to grow in Northern TN where temperatures are hot and humid?
  3. How much weight will the Osmanabadi goat gain in that time?
  4. Can you explain the routine? For example: If we start with 500 mature female goats, then it will give approximately 4 kids (2 + 2) in a year. If we sell all the male kids within a year, when should we sell the female kids? In other words, how long can we keep a female kid before selling it?
  5. When will a female kid be ready for breeding from the time of its birth? How long will a female kid take to deliver its first kid?
  6. I have heard that the first pregnancy will mostly yield only one kid. Twinning is possible only from second pregnancy. Is this correct?
  7. I live in Northern Tamil Nadu and I don’t know of any goat seller who sells Osmanabadi goat. Where can I find Osmanabadi sellers in TN?
  8. Is it possible to buy goats from your farm and transport it to TN? Can you explain this process if it is possible? To transport 50, 100 or 200 goats?
  9. I have read Osmanabadi to be a very good breed for all climatic conditions in India and it is one of the superior goat in terms of meat. But I have not seen many people in TN growing this breed. Why do you think this is the case?
  10. How preferrable is Osmanabadi breed in overseas compared to others?

Loans/Subsidies:


  1. Are there any Govt subsidies that are available by the central Govt or state (TN) govt?

Thanks in advance for your time! Looking forward for your response.
 

smy82482

Well-Known Member
Thanks for your Appreciation Rathinam.
Economics:
1.Buying of goats in local market on per piece basis is an traditional method(custom). Butcher feels that buying on piece basis will get at cheaper prices as compare to weight basis.So they usually buys the goats by touching them and not on weight basis.So,if you want to sale the goats in local market you have to sale them by piece.Yes it is possible to sale the goats on weight basis that too in you farm only,as most of the goat farm does now.
2.Selling 2000 number of kids for meat basis is not a big number,as you wont sale these goats in one time you will sale the goats step by step as the kids borns and grows up.In TamilNadu there are thousands of meat shop,each meat shop requires at least 2-3 goats for meat purpose everyday(except sunday,as sunday has huge demand,and on certain festivals and Eid),so monthly around 60-90 and yearly 700-1000,such a huge requirement for just single shop.You cant full fill the requirements of just two shops in your area with 500 breeding goats.
3.Goats avg life span is of 12yr-15yr,so goats wont becomes older in 2-3 years,you can buy 2yr old goats,that can breed for next 8-10yrs providing kids,then they are sold for half prices and are used for boneless meat purpose in most of the hotels as the meat of these goats are very cheap.
4.At least 20 acres of agriculture land is required for cultivation of fodder for 500 goats with adequate water supply for growing of grass.You have to feed concentrated feed apart form green fodder that cultivated in your farm land.
5.One goat requires 20sqft of area in elevated platform shed and 100 sqft for their movement outside shed..
6.For 50 goats one labor is required.

Breed.
1.Osmanabadi goats are usually sold for 6-7 months of age.
2.Osmanabadi goat is called as universal breed,so it gets easily adaptable in every part of the country.
3.It depends on your feed,usually it should weight 25kg in 6-7 months.
4.You can sell male and female kids both at the age of 6-7 months both are used for meat purpose.
5.It depends on type of goat breed,osmanabadi goat takes 6-7 months,sirohi 12-14 months,beetel 12 months etc.from birth.After mating it takes 5 moths to deliver kids in every type of goat breed.
6.Yes its true,as in first pregnancy the uterus size is small as compare to second time goats.Goats matures at the age of 3 yrs as human in 18yrs.
7.Contact your nearest animal husbandry department for that.
8.Yes its possible you have to look for such transporters that carry's animals to longer distances in your area.
9.Due to lack of knowledge,awareness and availability of such breed in their areas.
10.Has huge demand in gulf countries due to its highest palatability(taste) of meat.(6-7 month old)

Loans/Subsidies:Explained in detail in my previous posts,please check my previous posts.

Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.osmanabadigoat.com
www.goatfarm.co.in
 

Hello Doctor,

I appreciate such detailed, useful and practical information in very quick time. It feels warm to see someone like you who helps the community sincerely. I will go through your responses in detail and follow up with questions if needed. Thank you so much doctor.


Thanks for your Appreciation Rathinam.
Economics:
1.Buying of goats in local market on per piece basis is an traditional method(custom). Butcher feels that buying on piece basis will get at cheaper prices as compare to weight basis.So they usually buys the goats by touching them and not on weight basis.So,if you want to sale the goats in local market you have to sale them by piece.Yes it is possible to sale the goats on weight basis that too in you farm only,as most of the goat farm does now.
2.Selling 2000 number of kids for meat basis is not a big number,as you wont sale these goats in one time you will sale the goats step by step as the kids borns and grows up.In TamilNadu there are thousands of meat shop,each meat shop requires at least 2-3 goats for meat purpose everyday(except sunday,as sunday has huge demand,and on certain festivals and Eid),so monthly around 60-90 and yearly 700-1000,such a huge requirement for just single shop.You cant full fill the requirements of just two shops in your area with 500 breeding goats.
3.Goats avg life span is of 12yr-15yr,so goats wont becomes older in 2-3 years,you can buy 2yr old goats,that can breed for next 8-10yrs providing kids,then they are sold for half prices and are used for boneless meat purpose in most of the hotels as the meat of these goats are very cheap.
4.At least 20 acres of agriculture land is required for cultivation of fodder for 500 goats with adequate water supply for growing of grass.You have to feed concentrated feed apart form green fodder that cultivated in your farm land.
5.One goat requires 20sqft of area in elevated platform shed and 100 sqft for their movement outside shed..
6.For 50 goats one labor is required.

Breed.
1.Osmanabadi goats are usually sold for 6-7 months of age.
2.Osmanabadi goat is called as universal breed,so it gets easily adaptable in every part of the country.
3.It depends on your feed,usually it should weight 25kg in 6-7 months.
4.You can sell male and female kids both at the age of 6-7 months both are used for meat purpose.
5.It depends on type of goat breed,osmanabadi goat takes 6-7 months,sirohi 12-14 months,beetel 12 months etc.from birth.After mating it takes 5 moths to deliver kids in every type of goat breed.
6.Yes its true,as in first pregnancy the uterus size is small as compare to second time goats.Goats matures at the age of 3 yrs as human in 18yrs.
7.Contact your nearest animal husbandry department for that.
8.Yes its possible you have to look for such transporters that carry's animals to longer distances in your area.
9.Due to lack of knowledge,awareness and availability of such breed in their areas.
10.Has huge demand in gulf countries due to its highest palatability(taste) of meat.(6-7 month old)

Loans/Subsidies:Explained in detail in my previous posts,please check my previous posts.

Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
www.osmanabadigoat.com
www.goatfarm.co.in
 

Goat farming information 2017.

Hello Dr. Shaikh,


This is Rathinam again. I have a few additional questions and it would be great if you can give your thoughts on those. My questions are focused on expenses this time. The answers for most of these questions need not be accurate, nevertheless it will be very helpful to get your insights.


  1. You mentioned in my earlier post that we need to provide goats with concentrated feed in addition to green grass grown by ourselves (20 acres for 500 goats and its kids). I checked some of your earlier posts and found that concentrated feeds cost significantly more than green grass and hence buying such items from outside will increase the production cost. Are there ways to reduce this cost? For example, how many acres of land will be required to grow concentrated feed by ourselves? I know concentrated feed includes many items (maize, oil cake, wheat bran etc), but I am asking this question to see if we can reduce the input cost as much as possible.


  2. Are there any other supplements for concentrated feed? For example: I heard about Azolla which is very healthy for goats and cows. Will Azolla help in reducing the concentrated feed? If so by how much (in terms of cost?)


  3. Additional question on Azolla. I have heard that Goats don’t like to feed on Azolla compared to other fodder items. Is this true? From my personal experience, I have seen chickens in my farm like to feed on Azolla, I don’t know about Goats, especially Osmanabadi.


  4. What will be the approximate total cost spent on one Goat including fodder, labor, preventive medicines, veterinary service, management expenses and others? If
    1. Green fodder is produced in our farm and concentrated feed purchased outside?
    2. Both green fodder and concentrated feed is produced within our farm itself?

  5. Does the cost price calculated include the cost to feed and maintain its mother also? I ask this question because while we should be feeding/maintaining both the mother and the kid, we will be selling only the kid.


  6. Will cost price per goat reduce if we rear in large numbers? Or will it increase because of management difficulties?


  7. A simple calculation of selling 2000 Goats per year gives us a gross income of Rs. 80 Lakh (Assuming that a Goat is sold at approximately 20 Kgs, at the price of Rs. 200/Kg live weight). Is my calculation correct? If so, from your perspective, what percentage of this do you think will be the net profit for the farm? I can understand that the profit varies depending on various factors, but it will be super helpful to know the approximate range (profit percentage) for a decently maintained farm of this size.

Looking forward for your responses. Thanks.
 

smy82482

Well-Known Member
It is very difficult to explain your goat farming queries in detail here as time doesnt permits,and if explain in short cant be understood easily.So to know each and very thing about goat farming(A-Z) visit my website www.goatfarm.co.in or www.osmanabadigoat.com in that Goat Farm Project Report,it contains all your queries solutions explained in detailed,written in 44 pages.
Regards,
Dr.Shaikh
 

Hello Dr.Shaikh,

Excuse me for those detailed questions. I already transferred the money to your SBI bank account for the project report. Can you please email me the report? Thanks! I have also sent you a message from your website itself with my email id.
 

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