Success Story of Farmers

[atulkalaskar]

Did you conveniently missed the following point?

One of the Organic Grape Farmer, Mr. Siddiki, At. Po. Ausa, Dist Latur, was the only farmers, whose grapes (two containers) passed the test (pesticide residual test) by the buyer in Europe.

Since when Organic certified food required testing for pesticide Residue? This either means those who claim to do Organic farming secretly use pesticide or for some reason people don't label their product "Organic" and are subjected to the tests.

 

[vishwakarma]

Did you conveniently missed the following point?

One of the Organic Grape Farmer, Mr. Siddiki, At. Po. Ausa, Dist Latur, was the only farmers, whose grapes (two containers) passed the test (pesticide residual test) by the buyer in Europe.

Since when Organic certified food required testing for pesticide Residue? This either means those who claim to do Organic farming secretly use pesticide or for some reason people don't label their product "Organic" and are subjected to the tests.

Hello,

Thanks for posting the response.

Regarding your comment,

Since when Organic certified food required testing for pesticide Residue?

Just by labeling the farm product as "Organic", farmer can not avoid getting subjected to pesticide residue test.

Authorities can always cross check the product labeled as "Organic", by subjecting it to the pesticide residue test.

That is exactly what we wanted to point out that,

the farmers whose Grapes were rejected, were not Organic Farmers, and did not follow the Organic Farming Practices

Regarding your comment,

"This either means those who claim to do Organic farming secretly use pesticide ."

The organic farmers do not need to use any pesticide

Regarding your comment,

for some reason people don't label their product "Organic" and are subjected to the tests

Just by labeling the farm product as "Organic", farmer can not avoid getting subjected to pesticide residue test.

Authorities can always cross check the product labeled as "Organic", by subjecting it to the pesticide residue test.

Thanking you
With regards

MRC

 

[mvsriocl]

Mr.Vishwakarma ji,

please let me know the defference between Organic & Vermicompost;

which one is better; Iam planning to start Vermicompost unit;


Thanks & Regards
MV SubbaReddy

 

[atulkalaskar]

I am sure you know, people can't just label their product "Organic". It has to be certified by a competent authority. This process takes more than 3 years at the least. Any farmer who puts in so much effort will proudly label their product organic and will demand more money.

How come your so called farmers do organic farming and still sell their product along with regular batch or is it because they are practicing hybrid approach? Nothing wrong in it but then the entire credit can not be blindly given to the so called organic way of farming.

Secondly and most important every chemical has a life of existence in plant. If use correctly with proper schedule even those who use chemicals can produce zero residue products?

Are you trying to say all those products which are exported by every country in the world to EU or western markets never use chemicals? They do and ensure that by the time produce is harvested there is zero residue.

I think instead of claiming chemicals are bad you should learn and understand that it's not chemicals but the blind use of it is the problems.

Guns are not bad it's the people who use either make them bad or good. Got the point?

 

[vishwakarma]

I am sure you know, people can't just label their product "Organic". It has to be certified by a competent authority. This process takes more than 3 years at the least. Any farmer who puts in so much effort will proudly label their product organic and will demand more money.

How come your so called farmers do organic farming and still sell their product along with regular batch or is it because they are practicing hybrid approach? Nothing wrong in it but then the entire credit can not be blindly given to the so called organic way of farming.

Secondly and most important every chemical has a life of existence in plant. If use correctly with proper schedule even those who use chemicals can produce zero residue products?

Are you trying to say all those products which are exported by every country in the world to EU or western markets never use chemicals? They do and ensure that by the time produce is harvested there is zero residue.

I think instead of claiming chemicals are bad you should learn and understand that it's not chemicals but the blind use of it is the problems.

Guns are not bad it's the people who use either make them bad or good. Got the point?

Hello,

Thanks for posting your response;

Regarding your comment,

I am sure you know, people can't just label their product "Organic".

It is common knowledge.

It has to be certified by a competent authority. This process takes more than 3 years at the least.

Yes you are right.

Following are few of them present in India

1) Indian Organic Certification Agency (INDOCERT)

INDOCERT is a nationally and internationally operating, certification body established in India. It is accredited by National Accreditation Body (NAB), Government of India, as per National Programme for Organic Production (NPOP). Furthermore, INDOCERT offers Organic certification as per USDA-NOP standards for products destined for export to the United States. INDOCERT is accredited as per ISO 17021 & ISO 22003 by National Accreditation Board for Certification Bodies (NABCB, QCI, India) for providing Food Safety Management System Certification Based on ISO 22000:2005. INDOCERT also has accreditation from National Accreditation Board for Education and Training (NABET, QCI, India) for conducting awareness training programme on Food Hygiene (GMP/GHP).

2) Natural Organic Certification Association

Natural Organic Certification Association (NOCA) is accredited to ISO Guide-65:1996, General Requirements for Bodies operating product certification systems. NOCA is also accredited by Agriculture and Processed Food Products Export Development Authority (APEDA) Under Ministry of Commerce, Govt. Of. India for carrying out the inspections and certifications according to NSOP (National Standards for Organic Production - India) which has gained equivalence with EC Commission Regulation 834/2007 and Swiss Ordinance on Organic Farming, USDA-NOP.

3) BVQI (India) Pvt. Ltd.

4) Ecocert SA (India Branch Office)

5) IMO Control Private Limited

6) International Resources for Fairer Trade

7) Lacon Quality Certification Pvt. Ltd

8) OneCert Asia Agri Certification Private Limited

9) SGS India Pvt. Ltd.

10) Skal International (India)

11) Uttaranchal State Organic Certification Agency (USOCA)


Any farmer who puts in so much effort will proudly label their product organic and will demand more money.

Yes farmers are demanding more price and they are getting more price.

Not only that the farmers get more price, but they save money, because they do not to buy any fertilizers / pesticides / seeds, but produce all on the farm itself

Anybody who wants to know how they do the organic farming and why they do it and what benefit they get out of it, can contact the organic farmers directly and discuss the matter further.

I have prepared the list (having all contact details) of the organic farmers who had taken part in the recently held exhibition in Pune. If anybody wants it, he can contact me to get the list, by sending private message to me

How come your so called farmers do organic farming and still sell their product along with regular batch

There is no restriction / harm to sale the organic products along with non - organic products, as long as the product gets the price as per expectation.

Many organic farmers (some of practicing for more than 20 years) sale the farm products produced by following organic farming practices, without labeling them as organic.

The organic farmers gets far better price for the farm product from buyers.

For example on of the organic farmer Mr. S. V. Deshmukh from village near Dist. Latur (Marashtara), have organic sugarcane plantation and produces organic jaggery from it and sales it in Latur itself for Rs 60=00 per kg to the wholesale buyer. The demand is so much that he is unable to meet the buyers demand in Latur city itself.

or is it because they are practicing hybrid approach? Nothing wrong in it but then the entire credit can not be blindly given to the so called organic way of farming.

There is no need for using any man made chemical pesticides / fertilizers if one follows

Organic Farming Practices

So there is no question of anything called as Hybrid Approach.

Secondly and most important every chemical has a life of existence in plant. If use correctly with proper schedule even those who use chemicals can produce zero residue products?

Are you trying to say all those products which are exported by every country in the world to EU or western markets never use chemicals? They do and ensure that by the time produce is harvested there is zero residue.

I think instead of claiming chemicals are bad you should learn and understand that it's not chemicals but the blind use of it is the problems.

Guns are not bad it's the people who use either make them bad or good.

When there is no need of using (purchasing and increasing the cost of cultivation) any man made chemical pesticide if one follows

Organic Farming Practices

why farmers should use

man made chemical pesticides

There are so many banned / adulterated / harmful pesticides being marketed / pushed in India that, it is better not to use them at all.

Many of the pesticides have affected the health of the farm worker. Please have look at following information.

FARM WORKERS & PESTICIDES

"Overexposure to such pesticides can be fatal. The common symptoms of overexposure include headaches, sweating, weakness, diarrhea, vomiting, increased salivation, respiratory distress, repetitive muscle contractions, blurred vision, cognitive difficulties, seizures, and loss of consciousness. Long-term effects may include a… dying back of the nerves in the body as a result of the toxicity of the pesticide."

Got the point?

Yes.

Long back.

The point is that

Organic Farming is the best option for the marginal land holding farmers in India and outside India.

Thanking you
With Regards

MRC

 

[atulkalaskar]

Instead of giving some third part examples which cannot be verified can you show what is on your farm or are you just a copy / paste specialist?

Have you done any scientific analysis? Half the stuff you paste is not even worth reading.

 

[vishwakarma]

Instead of giving some third part examples which cannot be verified can you show what is on your farm or are you just a copy / paste specialist?

Have you done any scientific analysis? Half the stuff you paste is not even worth reading.

Hello,

Thanks for posting your response.

Regarding your comment

can you show what is on your farm or are you just a copy / paste specialist?

It do not matter if I personally do the organic farming or not.

My job is to promote the Organic Framing by giving maximum possible publicity to the organic farmers who are successful both technically and financially.

Now why I do it / how I do it, is my option.

Any problem if it help the Organic Framers who are successful both technically and financially.

When farmer suffers loss / fails or any negative information available about farming, it gets more publicity than the farmer who is successful both technically and financially and organic farming practices.

I am trying my level best, by adapting whatever possible ways available ( including copy / paste ) to me.

It do not matter who call me what, as long as I bring forward

the success stories of the successful organic farmers.

As a human, it is my responsibility to create the awareness about the true facts and dangers about the

"Modern Agriculture Practices"

developed in last 100 years.

Regarding your comment

giving some third part examples which cannot be verified

All the contact details (of the organic farmers who are successful both technically and financially) are available, to those who want it.

Anybody can visit the organic farmers, stay on their farm for whatever time possible, observe the organic farming practices followed, learn them, cross check them.

Regards

MRC

 

[atulkalaskar]

aaha.....you preach but don't practice....

No more explanation needed. We rather discuss with farmers and not sales agents.

 

[vishwakarma]

aaha.....you preach but don't practice....

No more explanation needed. We rather discuss with farmers and not sales agents.

Hello,

Thanks for posting your response.

Regarding your comment,

No more explanation needed. We rather discuss with farmers and not sales agents.

I never said that I am farmer.

Also I am not giving any explanation.

Also I am not telling anybody to discuss with me.

Nobody can expect me to keep quite if, wrong information about organic farming is posted with intention of promoting modern agriculture practices.

I am promoting

Organic Farming Practices

and

Creating awareness about the dangers of following

Modern Agriculture Practices

Please note that this thread was started not for discussion.

This thread was started for posting the " Success Stories of the farmers"

I hope you can read the first posting in this thread that says,

It would be highly helpful to all memebers if any body can post " Success Stories of the farmers" they have come across/learnt from others;

It does not say that if anybody is not involved in the farming activity can not post the details about the other successful farmers.

Also if anybody wants to discuss with the Organic Farmers, they can contact the organic farmers, the contact details are available with me and soon they will be available on the website.

Please note that many successful Organic Framers are not involved in any activity related to publishing their technical / financial success stories. The reason is that they are not interested in any type of publicity.

We are motivating the successful organic farmers to pen their success stories and putting it on the website specifically for them, so that other farmers will get motivation to enter the "Organic Farming"

"Successful Organic Framers"

We are already on the job and the website will go online soon.

Regarding your comment,

sales agents.

Everybody knows who is what and what to do.

The activity of promoting

Organic Farming Practices

Do not involve any type of sale.

In fact, the base of Organic Farming is

" avoid purchasing every possible farm input and prepare all the farm input on the farm itself "

while practicing the organic farming.

It is the Modern Agriculture Practices that forces the farmers to purchase each and everything promoted by the sales agents.

Time will prove that

Organic Farming is the only technically / economically viable option for the small land holding farmers.

Thanking you

With Regards

MRC

 

[skdhawan3]

Dear Friend,
It is definitely a great concern to follow Organic farming due to the fact that HUMAN HEALTH IS effected by the use of chemicals in any form..........So please it is my personal and humble request request to follow the safe cultivation practices.It is at least a great begining that after so much damage has been done ,people have started thinking strictly about human health.We are so surprised that the producers as well as traders care least about the end user.Think if you are asked to eat a pesticide from the bottle.....?

 

[skdhawan3]

I am serving in Agriculiure Department,and am looking after beekeeping scheme in a district.I have a success story
A farmer namely Mohd Shabir S/o Mehar Din R/o Village Dandesar Tehsil Nowshera District rajouri is a Gujjar an ST who started beekeeping with only 5 beehives in the year 2oo6.During the course of my visit to that area I happened to notice the beehives and approached the farmer and came to know about his economic condition
I offered him help in the form of subsidised beekeeping equipment which the department supplies at 50% cost.The farmer agreed to expand and today he has a farm of 40 beecolonies and he earns around 45000-50000 per annum
Today he is a trained beekeeper who trains other farmers in the area and helps them in the active honey flow season every year
I wish farmers to progress and grow in the same way

 

[shashank_vatsa]

Hi,

I am 2008 Pass out of IIT Delhi and since past 2.5yrs I had been working for a growing management consulting firm in Gurgaon.

But Recently I have quit my highly remunerative and luxurious job and started community farming in Bihar.

It gives me ample pleasure to do something good for the society.

Shashank
Please contact...

 

[mvsriocl]

Hello Mr. SKdhawan3

Really you have posted a nice information on beekeeping, even new to many people;
Basic theme of this my topic was on the verge of diversion, but you put it in right track with a new success story of a farmer keeping bee;

thanks a lot & keep posting more & more success stories


Thanks & Regards
MV SubbaReddy

 

[indione]

professional agriculture

Dear Mr Reddy, i wholeheartedly support your idea. we need success stories to get the required stimulus to move ahead bcoz agriculture is such a risky proposition..even i m a psu employee but being a post grad in agriculture wants to do commercial agriculture.this is a good platform to exchange ideas bcoz an idea can really change life.

rajib mishra
orissa

 

[atulkalaskar]

Dear Mr. Dhavan,

I am glad you mentioned about bee keeping. I am a hydroponic grower and we use bees a lot in our greenhouses for pollination. I am wondering if you are aware of Bumble bees or other bees which are of similar type which we can use for pollination? Do let me know.

Your comment on safe farming is indeed important. If pesticides are used even moderately in our greenhouses then the bees are first one to die, effects on humans come much later. Thus we avoid pesticides at all cost and focus mainly on bio controls.

It might be a good idea if you can post more info on type of bees that one can use for pollination and other bio controls which are available in India especially near Pune would help me.

Regards

Atul Kalaskar

 

[biofarming]

Success Story of Farmer

Organic Farming is better than Chemical Farming but best option is Natural Farming or Fukuoka Farming also known as Zero Tillage Farming,

I would like mention story of Mr Kailash Murthy who is successful farmer in Natural Farming Techniques---
Zero Input Farmer
A farmer by passion and a banker by profession believes in the age old method of farming as it is nearest to the ways of Nature.

Kailish Murthy has shown the world that ‘zero input farming’ is more acceptable, economically viable and environmentally friendlier than the modern agriculturial practices.

Scientist say the world’s soil is sickest in the farmlands of the developed world in North America, Europe, Australia due to the exessive use of pesticides, insecticides and chemial fertiliziers.

“Nature has its own way of doing a balancing act. And this is best seen under natural farming conditions. If we follow mono culture or one crop, then pests are a sure manifestation. This leads to application of pesticides leading to environmental problems, including poisoning of the food chain. But natural farming supports multi-variety of plants. This eliminates chances of proliferation of pests depending on any one species as the food supply is restricted. In case there is a pest outbreak, it is counter balanced by other species which feed on them. Hence the problem is eliminated naturally,” says Mr. Murthy.

More than 3,000 varieties of plant species grow on Mr. Murthy’s farm and some of them are medicinal plants. In addition, there is areca nut, mulberry, mango, drumstick, and a variety of vegetables; cotton and paddy cultivation is on trial. The interplay of natural forces and the presence of a variety of species enhance the soil fertility while the reverse is the case under the so-called scientific farming methods

 

[indonippon64]

Good Start

Let's continue this story. If China can grow than Japan , WHY NOT INDIA ?
It is possible after some improvment in poltician's(Neta) behaviour,nature,habbit and thinking.First of all they have to change their greedy nature.
Sorry, this is not our topics.lets pray for Golden India.
Regards

 

[indonippon64]

Good Start

Sorry to all.
This message was not for the above subject.By mistake published here.

 

[vishwakarma]

Let's continue this story. If China can grow than Japan , WHY NOT INDIA ?
It is possible after some improvment in poltician's(Neta) behaviour,nature,habbit and thinking.First of all they have to change their greedy nature.
Sorry, this is not our topics.lets pray for Golden India.
Regards

Hello,

Yes India can grow bigger than other nations.

But everybody in this nation has to improve.

There is no point in only blaming the politicians.

Regards

MRC

 

[vishwakarma]

Organic Farming is better than Chemical Farming but best option is Natural Farming or Fukuoka Farming also known as Zero Tillage Farming,

I would like mention story of Mr Kailash Murthy who is successful farmer in Natural Farming Techniques---
Zero Input Farmer
A farmer by passion and a banker by profession believes in the age old method of farming as it is nearest to the ways of Nature.

Kailish Murthy has shown the world that ‘zero input farming’ is more acceptable, economically viable and environmentally friendlier than the modern agriculturial practices.

Scientist say the world’s soil is sickest in the farmlands of the developed world in North America, Europe, Australia due to the exessive use of pesticides, insecticides and chemial fertiliziers.

“Nature has its own way of doing a balancing act. And this is best seen under natural farming conditions. If we follow mono culture or one crop, then pests are a sure manifestation. This leads to application of pesticides leading to environmental problems, including poisoning of the food chain. But natural farming supports multi-variety of plants. This eliminates chances of proliferation of pests depending on any one species as the food supply is restricted. In case there is a pest outbreak, it is counter balanced by other species which feed on them. Hence the problem is eliminated naturally,” says Mr. Murthy.

More than 3,000 varieties of plant species grow on Mr. Murthy’s farm and some of them are medicinal plants. In addition, there is areca nut, mulberry, mango, drumstick, and a variety of vegetables; cotton and paddy cultivation is on trial. The interplay of natural forces and the presence of a variety of species enhance the soil fertility while the reverse is the case under the so-called scientific farming methods

Hello,

Thanks for posting this response.

Regards

MRC